And also, who cares if Graeme Bate is Madlee's dad, if he really is his dad, then how come he's not asking him for advice and help??? Gee if graeme was my dad, I wouldn't be wasting my time on a forum asking members for advice, I'd be working hard in the kennels all day and listening to Graeme's advice all day long.

this is where i got confussed in this thread, isnt madlee a girl now brother in law says a he then a she and im really really lost..

if bate was the dad haha that mean your probly a hunt, therfor a junkie

who knows just all very stupid