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acedragonfire 01-05-2011 07:40 PM

General Infomation Please
 
happy new yr to all
i have only just joined site i am interested in racing greyhounds only trouble is i am as green as grass when it comes to knowing anything re greyhounds
if i may ask a couple of question
for eg
i wish to purchase a pup around 6 mths of age
apart from price of dog or bitch
how much am i up for in rearing fees breaking in fees etc
and what is the going rate most trainers charge to train dog
i live in south east suburbs of melb
and i also realise two things one no guarantees dog will get to races or be any good secondly there is shonky breaking in trainers plus trainers out there
so any info would be much appreciated for this green horn
much obliged
acedragonfire

tazagogo 01-05-2011 11:49 PM

well if i was you firstly i would get a give away greyhound around 18 months to 2 years go to races and talk to the other trainers and owners.
one thing that i find is public trainers hate people that dont care about the dog and just want to palm it off to the trainer without having input .
rear it yourself break it in at a break in center about 400 dollars and train and race it yourself
people race greyhounds to keep the dog and themselves happy
not for money
if u get a greyhound its a 24 hour a day 7 day a week job and every greyhound can get to the track and win its the time effort and attention that you personaly put into it.

if ur not ready for 100 percent comitment than dont get a greyhound

Kyleigh 01-05-2011 11:50 PM

hey mate, depends on what breed of dog you are after, anywhere from 1k to 5k for a pup, not sure what the prices are for rearing and breaking in in vic, rearing can be anywhere from 35-75 per week and breaking in is usually on average 100 a week, most trainers will do a 50/50 alot now are taking the first 100 and 50/50 after that, you will get a good idea by just talking to a few, good luck with everything, most people on here are pretty approachable and give good advice (when they want too lol) again good luck

cheers
Kyleigh

Kyleigh 01-05-2011 11:52 PM

he said he wanted to own one not train one

tazagogo 01-05-2011 11:59 PM

yes i know this but if he wants to own one than he should still be committed to it and realise that greyhound racing is not about money we all do it for enjoyment and because the dog love to have a run wouldnt you agree

Kyleigh 01-06-2011 12:05 AM

he doesnt have to be comitted just to own one, plenty of people own them and wouldnt even know what a hock is, each to their own I say, we need more people in the industry in any form

tazagogo 01-06-2011 12:06 AM

well heres some advice if you really just want to own but not train it or have it there
(03) 5855 2234
peter and astrid helms they rear at merrygums
they dont train or break in just rear

(03) 5282 8184 or 0412 098 201
alan marum breacking in center at lara

and for trainers just go around to tracks and ask around
here are the latest pups for sale
Greyhound Pups for sale

tazagogo 01-06-2011 12:10 AM

what we need is some fresh faces at the tracks getting involved in the sport not blood sucking people that just buy dogs and send them off to other trainers for a bit of cash but thats my opinion i just believe we need a bit of incentive and to train some younger people into the industry as trainer numbers have droped progressivly over the past 5 years. maybe there should be a young trainer of the year award to help push some intrest . i dunno

cheers
wayno

Kyleigh 01-06-2011 12:13 AM

dont you breed and then sell your pups? would that not make you a blood sucking money maker rather than keeping hold of the whole litter and training them yourself? dont have a shot at the guy cause he wants to buy a dog, its people like you that make people not want to get into the industry with all of your self rightous know all attitude!

tazagogo 01-06-2011 12:19 AM

sold half of them and i talk to the owners and ask how there going all the time the other half were given to good homes. i was not in that for the money at all and its not a know all attitude at all im new to it all im a kid basicaly and i learn from others just like everyone else and just try to help other by relaying what i hear
my first greyhound was bought as a pet that i rescued and a guy wanted to breed with her to get a pup that how it all started so i dont know what you mean by people like me as i only just got into the industry 4 weeks ago my first race is on friday

Kyleigh 01-06-2011 12:25 AM

4 week ago my arse, do you think we are all that stupid, a greyhound that you bought that you rescued, which one?

you have had in the last coupld of years maybe 10 different accounts on this forum and no doubt when the others start reading this and giving their say you will start up another account, do you want me to post your unbelievable abusive private messages that you sent to me a few months ago mr I only started in the industry 4 weeks ago?

tazagogo 01-06-2011 12:29 AM

and as for this next letter thats coming up now that im allowed to train i will train and keep alot of the litter and the others will just be sold at the cost price of there vaccinations and microchips ect i wont be making any money off them at all its the enjoyment of whelping the litter bring life into the world and having the company of an amazing animal and rasing them watching them grow and seeing them happy and playful its the enjoy ment that im in it for. and im not trying to put this guy down at all i was just suggesting that its more enjoyable to train yourself

tazagogo 01-06-2011 12:39 AM

last couple of years??
this is the second account on here the first i have forgotten the password for so i dont know what your on about??
i have had 1 greyhound before that was black astropi was a unwanted give away i got romantic bacca 2 months ago as azzy died and i wanted another pet than 5 weeks ago a guy had 2 greyhound brothers takarada and coconut kid he was going to shoot i only had one kennel at the time so i got 1 coconut kid and said i would get the other after new years and now a rang him hes shot takarada and it upset me alot as they dont deserve it . and leanne agrees with me on this. and 4 weeks ago i applyed for my owner trainer licence through the gra i still have the emails from bill fanning arranging the appointment which was 8th of december my kennel inspection was done on the 11th of december and i recieved my licence in the mail on the 19th of december and if you dont believe me you can call bill fanning the head of integrity at grnsw on 87670500
i wont be taken for a lier

Kyleigh 01-06-2011 12:42 AM

people dont shoot greys anymore mate

tazagogo 01-06-2011 12:44 AM

well he did im sorry to say well he said so anyway because he said and i quote "i dont have time for regect dogs, you should have picked him up when you got the other one"

tazagogo 01-06-2011 12:46 AM

and if you want you can ask leanne her name on here is lillyflower and roxy about the dog she has seen how bad he was neglected and how much hes improved now that i have him.
unfortunatly some trainers even now wont pay money to uthenase (spelt wrong i know) and they dont bother sending them to pet homes
when i got him he was covered in flees had worms and was malnurished

its people like that that puts people like me off the industry and they must be bought to justice

Kyleigh 01-06-2011 12:50 AM

mate, I dont care, I dont know you, dont wish to, and dont particulary like you much, I dont like being threatened by you or anyone, which you have done to me a couple of months ago, the point is, if the guy wants to buy a dog, he can buy a dog, he asked some simple questions and he has copped all of this on his thread

tazagogo 01-06-2011 12:57 AM

agreed.
appolagies to you mr ace dragon dude for cluttering your thread with my garbage
hope you get a winner and have alot of fun with him
just dont be scared to talk to trainers at the track as they are almost always happy to give advice to newcommers
and dont take notice of some people that tell you to piss off some trainers are not very nice but most are very nice
and alot of us stand up for ourselfs and i guess thats called treatening by some people sticking up for yourself but its all part of the enjoyment of laughing it off while having a beer
cheers and good luck

tazagogo 01-06-2011 12:59 AM

oooh also if you join greyhound-data they have a much frendlyer forum that dont backstab and rant on like alot of the people on here do thats where all the sane greyhound owners are and its filled with lots of good knowledge with people such as rob tyler of reason kennels and paul wheeler my good pal lillie and alot of vets ect that will help you on your way to a winner

Kyleigh 01-06-2011 01:00 AM

and alot of us stand up for ourselfs and i guess thats called treatening by some people sticking up for yourself

are you friggen serious, you threatened to have my license taken off me, 'because you know people' lmao yea your other 3 personalties.......YOU IDIOT!

nickg 01-06-2011 01:07 AM

nice thread this lol

acedragonfire,


ill post some info in here for you in the next few days that should assist you

if you need any more info send me a private message, bit scared i might get shot down if i say to much here

cheers

tazagogo 01-06-2011 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tazagogo (Post 19085)
agreed.
i guess thats called treatening by some people sticking up for yourself but its all part of the enjoyment of laughing it off while having a beer
cheers and good luck

well to my previous point if u dont wanna remember what u write do like me and have another cold one cause i know deep down that i said something like that but hell knows where it came from .

hmm theres a point if u wanna be silly and threaten silly shit just go drink beer

if u dont want it too haunt u stay sober :eek: :o

must remember dont ever write when ur cranky had a bad day at work and drinking

Kyleigh 01-06-2011 01:08 AM

yea you need to watch people on this forums, as far as wayne is concerned, members off this forum broke into his home gave him a flogging and bashed his dog to death

tazagogo 01-06-2011 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickg (Post 19088)
nice thread this lol

acedragonfire,


ill post some info in here for you in the next few days that should assist you

if you need any more info send me a private message, bit scared i might get shot down if i say to much here

cheers

na wouldnt wanna shoot u down your a welth of info nick

tazagogo 01-06-2011 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyleigh (Post 19090)
yea you need to watch people on this forums, as far as wayne is concerned, members off this forum broke into his home gave him a flogging and bashed his dog to death

its not members of the forum its alledged members of the forum nothing was ever proven and it wasnt me that was given a flooging i got home from work and the place was broken into
thus renforcing my previous statment about commitment cause u never know what could happen

tazagogo 01-06-2011 01:13 AM

well while everyone in a happy mood like me atm lets watch something funny ahh heres a good 1 Videos Posted by Greyhound Racing New South Wales: "The Egg" (2009) [HQ] | Facebook this will cheer the lil miss up

Kyleigh 01-06-2011 01:19 AM

give it up, I am perfectly fine thanks, just dont like wankers

nickg 01-06-2011 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tazagogo (Post 19089)
well to my previous point if u dont wanna remember what u write do like me and have another cold one cause i know deep down that i said something like that but hell knows where it came from .

hmm theres a point if u wanna be silly and threaten silly shit just go drink beer

if u dont want it too haunt u stay sober :eek: :o

must remember dont ever write when ur cranky had a bad day at work and drinking

lol

this is gold

tazagogo 01-06-2011 01:26 AM

well no girl would enjoy wankers they wouldnt get much pleasure from that
and im happy to say my wife is quite pleased so i have no time to be a wanker.


do you have a problem with forplay ??
lol

nickg 01-06-2011 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tazagogo (Post 19096)
well no girl would enjoy wankers they wouldnt get much pleasure from that
and im happy to say my wife is quite pleased so i have no time to be a wanker.


do you have a problem with forplay ??
lol

im hearing alot of verbal wanking happening here thats for sure

is forplay the thing where you roll over and say good night and go to sleep?

tazagogo 01-06-2011 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickg (Post 19097)
im hearing alot of verbal wanking happening here thats for sure

is forplay the thing where you roll over and say good night and go to sleep?

ill agree with that its making me a bit stiff

so the forplay sounds really good right about now thats for sure

well im going to get some forplay cause all this verbal wanking is getting exhausting and making my neck stiff so night all have a good wank im going to get some forplay as i have to wake early to train

cheyenne 01-06-2011 10:37 PM

lets hope u get a winner first up tazagogo it is agood feeling ,

cheyenne 01-06-2011 10:41 PM

well i thought u where interested in racing thats what my comment was about. not wanking.;

acedragonfire 01-07-2011 01:33 AM

thank you for replies what there was of them sounded like a real cat and dog fight it is enough to turn me off dogs and people who vent their own crap on my post but its ok
nick will pm you ty
seem ur the one with some brains the other two need to get a life
thank was my first post and last much appreciated

tazagogo 01-07-2011 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheyenne (Post 19101)
lets hope u get a winner first up tazagogo it is agood feeling ,

cheers buddy

tazagogo 01-07-2011 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acedragonfire (Post 19103)
thank you for replies what there was of them sounded like a real cat and dog fight it is enough to turn me off dogs and people who vent their own crap on my post but its ok
nick will pm you ty
seem ur the one with some brains the other two need to get a life
thank was my first post and last much appreciated

you will get used to it on here and dw its all fun hope u get a winner and enjoy racing

acedragonfire 01-07-2011 05:15 PM

thank you taz will keep looking
found a couple of books re training etc that seems the caper to get into
but as i am as green as grass will keep asking questions ty for input


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