Dogs That Fight

[morningstain]

Im not shore if this is a stupid question or not, is there a way to stop dogs from fighting and get them to chase again? Can they be retrained?

[myanimall]

from what i have learnt recently, there are different types of fighters, some apparently fight due to underlying injury, a limited few might fight due to boredom (dogs around them not fast enough) and others are just instinctive to not let others near them.

obviously with the injured ones when the injury is fixed and they are pain free they wont continue to fight.
Other dogs might be best to have the re-broken in/ refreshed or possibly take them coursing which appears to be a highly recommended way to help them come good again.

Other than that its a very dog to dog situation, on another forum i have heard people mentioning blinkers so the dogs cant see to the side making them concentrate on the bunny in front.

[Morgan]

Is there any penalty for dogs that seem to fight, or purposely interfere with other dogs?

[bundy]

Fighters and Non chasers are nothing more than a pain the backside that can cause injury and harm to good dogs.

[bundy]

R69 Mar (fighters) and failing to pursue

(1) Where a greyhound, in the opinion of the Stewards-

(a) mars the running of any other greyhound during an Event; or

(b) fails to pursue the lure with due commitment during an Event,

the Stewards may, except in the case where the greyhound is found to have been injured pursuant to sub-rule (4) impose a period of suspension in respect of the greyhound pursuant to sub-rule (2) or sub-rule (4).

(2) The period of suspension imposed pursuant to sub-rule (1) shall be-

(a) in the case of a first offence, at the track where the offence occurred, 28 days and until the completion of a satisfactory trial; or

(b) in the case of a second similar offence, at all tracks, 3 months, and until the completion of a satisfactory trial, or

(c) in the case of a third or subsequent similar offence, at all tracks, 12 months and until the completion of a satisfactory trial.

(3) Where a greyhound is suspended pursuant to sub-rule (2)(a) and is required to complete a satisfactory trial pursuant to Rule 72, the trial shall not take place on the day of occurrence and shall not be a qualifying trial or Event.

(4) Where a greyhound fails to pursue the lure as pursuant to sub-rule (1)(b), the greyhound shall be examined by the officiating veterinary surgeon or authorised person and if found not to be injured the handler of the greyhound may seek a re-examination at a time on the day of the meeting as agreed to by the Stewards.

(5) Where a greyhound is found to be suffering from an injury upon an examination pursuant to sub-rule (4), a certificate shall be produced to the Stewards by the veterinary surgeon or authorised person detailing the injury. The Stewards shall endorse the greyhound's certificate of registration accordingly to show that the greyhound failed to pursue the lure, by reason of injury.

(6) The Stewards shall order a greyhound found to be suffering from an injury pursuant to sub-rule (5) to undergo a satisfactory trial pursuant to Rule 72.

(7) Where a greyhound is found to be in breach of sub-rule (1)(b) for a second or subsequent time, the provisions of sub-rule (5) shall not apply unless the endorsement has been cancelled pursuant to Rule 70(2).

(8) Where a greyhound is found by the Stewards to have engaged in an act that mars another greyhound or has failed to pursue the lure with due commitment during an Event the Stewards shall, subject to sub-rule (5), endorse the certificate of registration of the greyhound with the particulars of the offence.

[bundy]

R72 Satisfactory trials

(1) Where it is ordered that a greyhound is to undergo a satisfactory trial-

(a) the trainer of the greyhound shall make application to a club that the satisfactory trial be conducted and the club shall make the necessary arrangements and advise the trainer accordingly;

(b) the trial shall be conducted with a field of greyhounds as determined by the Controlling Body over a similar distance or distance approved by the Stewards.

(2) Other than for cramping, for clearance at all venues the trial must be performed at the venue where the order was given.

(3) For clearance at all venues except the track where the order was given the trial may be performed at any venue;


R36 Blinkers

(1) A greyhound competing in an Event shall not wear blinkers unless the owner or trainer has obtained the prior permission of the Stewards following a trial to the satisfaction of Stewards.

(2) Any blinkers to be worn shall be approved by the Stewards.

(3) A greyhound authorised to wear blinkers shall not compete in an Event without blinkers unless the Stewards have, following a trial to the satisfaction of the Stewards, authorised the removal.

[Morgan]

Thanks bundy for the info

[bundy]

No problems morgan - read the team bundy forums too mate - gotta be happy is back

[morningstain]

Thanks gents. its a shame she is a lovely dog, gentle. would she still be good to breed with?

[lilyflowerandroxy]

Fighters don't generally pass on their characteristics, it depends on what type of fighter they are. If they fought due to injuries, then they're not really 'normal fighters', it'd be the trainer's fault for causing them to fight.
Myanimall's advice is sound, those are the common scenarios and things trainers will do to try to re educate a fighter. But it is very hard to eradicate bad habits like fighting due to being so competitive.
We've had a couple of fighters and tried every method to stop it occurring again, even a change of trainers, scenery, blinkers, different musclemen etc without luck, many years ago.

However there is one remedy suggested to me by an old timer years ago, that does seem to work in preventing fighters from re offending, I promised to keep it a secret lol so I can't say what the remedy is but it's so simple and easy and in no way bothers the dog at all.
I might want to start up a business one day curing fighters, you know! ;-) lol