There you go coops in order now. Ill do it from now on, is no problem cos I have them marked on my sheets like that anyway. Cheers

Am having one of the worst nights I can remember in quite a while, I guess they gotta come sometime, luck totally against me tonight, but in saying that it could be worse. Hopefully a late fightback.

Very good result at ballarat race 7, all of a sudden the night has gone from bad to average

Thursday night tips
 

Albion park
Race 5 8-1,4,5 top pick u/p
Race 6 7-3,8,2 top pick 1st 1.40 1.00 quin 8.00 exacta 11.20
Race 8 3-2,4,1 top pick 1st 1.50 1.60 quin 3.60 exacta 3.60 trifecta 15.80
Race 9 2-7,8,6 top pick 1st 1.70 1.20
Race 10 8-3.1.5

Angle park
Race 1 2-4,7,3 top pick 1st 3.90 1.50
Race 5 8-4,5,1 top pick 1st 6.30 2.20 quin 4.30 exacta 11.40
Race 7 7-8,5,9 top pick 1st 1.50 1.30
Race 9 8-5,4,1 top pick 1st 1.30 1.00 quin 2.70 exacta 3.50 tri 5.40
Race 10 7-3,2,4 top pick 1st 2.30 1.80 quin 8.30 exacta 21.00 trifecta 54.90

Dapto
Race 7 no tip just be wary of the 2, will be short, the 3 is a suicidal railer with early toe, cuts very hard, fave could be put through fence.
Race 9 2-6,8,1 top pick 1st 4.20 1.20

Hobart
Race 10 8-7,1,4

Sandown
Race 4 5-7,8,2 top pick 2nd 1.20 quin 3.30 exacta 11.30
Race 6 8-7,6,1 top pick 2nd 1.30 quin 4.60 exacta 11.60
Race 10 8-2,1,4 top pick 1st 4.40 1.70

Quaddies
Albion 8-3,7-1,3,4,6,8-3 lost
Angle park 1,4,5,8-3,4,6,7-7-1,2,3,5 outlay $64 return 215.90
Dapto 1,2,3,4,5-1,2,5,7-2,4,5-5,6 outlay $120 for $1 returns 364.90 vic 301.70 nsw
Hobart No bet to many maiden races with first starters
Sandown 1,2,3,5,6,7-7,8-1,7,8-1,2,3,5 outlay 144 return 57.60 :(

dogcash how much does it cost to do these bets for a $1 stake per race

perm 4 dogs ex quin tri also win and ew since you put thos eup to - id work it out but cant be bothered lol

are you in profit this year

cheers nick

mate to put all on $54....I think...But I wouldnt go putting all bets on every race, If your sitting watching the races and betting well you should be able to decide what stratigies are suitable for certain races. I suggest picking 1 bet type and sticking, when you jump around thats when you get frustrated. If small fish are sweet I suggest quinellas for alot of returns, even better if you can banker 1 or banker 2 in seperate bets. My selections are there to help you cut the chances down in races. My strike rate is around 85% for finding winner in top 4 and I am not picking the 4 faves in every race, I have winners up $45 mark. So you can eliminate half the field in my selected races as winning chances. I know one guy who is bankering whatever selection is longest price with couple of minutes to go in quinellas with other 3 and is having great fun spending his $3 a race. I have another mate going well on the trifectas but he is spending alot more, I guess it all depends on your finances. Myself I been grinding out a profit backing my top selections, and you will be surprised how quickly your bank can grow. I am not backing every runner if I think the selection is poor value I will let it go. I also bet on IAS who offer middle tote +3% (i think) on all aussie dog races. Hope this helps a little haha, feel free to ask any other questions, and if you want a log of my results I can email you one just pm me or email dogcash@hotmail.com

so you dont tell punters what stratagy to play well isnt that pointless as if you go on any free site that tips 4 per race you could quite easily pick 15 races on the night and have the success you are having and you are charging

maybe when i get more time i will put it into action one night and pick the same amount of races you do for the night with pre picked 4's from e.g unitab or NGF

my mate in the UK runs a site like yours and i know he never really does any better than the free tips from such sites

i wish you every success and hope you turn a profit but any serious pro punter and i know a few wouldnt be wasting there time on here drumming up business

cheers

Ok you pick your races and hit a 40% top pick strike rate consistently...were you on first 2 selections at angle ;) And no I am not charging at the moment and when that is up and running it will be alot more in depth with detailed comments explaining selections and my recommended wagering. To do comments, wagering stratagies is a full time job, and once money is coming in then that will all be covered. Cheers

And can you please let me know a free site that hits the numbers I do? I am very interested....The watchdog maybe? Yeah I could tip every fave in every race and prob hit 30%

wont be my picks will be someone elses but i will psot one here one night whwen i get more time - fav in au win around 35% dont they and yours is 40 % so yes youd be in from there


and as for the two angel park races if youd have taken unitab picks they got the race 1 winner as first pick and the tricast in race 5 paying $75 just goes to prove a point i think

Ok o you cant even post your own tips? Yes faves win that often, I am not picking faves in all races. Any fool know you go broke backing faves. So have a dollar on every selection on unitab or whatever and $1 on mine.....see how you go ;) Cheers buddy

unitab in race 1 at angle park got best pick
angle park race 5 tricast paying $75
matched you so far at sandown

oh and race 5 at albion tricast $268

just a comparison

Wow you must be a millionaire, gee lets all stop work and just follow unitab!!!! God I didnt know it was that simple, hours of study wasted. Thanks for the enlightment.

i said nothing about me picking if you read the post properly -

unitab and NGF pick better odds than your picks take in relation your best bets price and theres best bets price maybe you will come out on top but percent means nothing if your hitting 3.0 fav at 40% and someone else is hitting 5.0 for 25%

stats are misleading if you dont read all of them

what do you think there tipster do pick them out of a hat lol

yes you have to go through races and try to find the best races to pay a good div on either quin or best bet but i guess after a while you will find a system to suit

i dontbet much lol im not that silly

but what i am good at it stats and numbers

For tomorrows tips please see unitab ;) anyway i appreciate the criticism, I hope I prove you wrong. I have good interest so far and people are happy so only time will tell. Cheers

im not criticising im just putting an opinion

im more than happy to show you how to make a few dollars on betfair - using maths and not gambling i used to do a few hours a day in the uk im sure your time will be better spent that way if you wana make a living out of it

20 min tutorial on msn is alls it takes will take a while to get your own system to suit your style and budget but its better than gambling

Fantastic night with top selections with 10/15 winning. A outlay of 15 units of top picks returns 28.5 units

Good job mate. :D;)

Cheers mate, hope you were on a few

Fridays tips
 

Great meeting at the gardens today so have tips there as well as tonight

The gardens
Race 5 1-2,8,4 top pick 1st 1.70 1.20 quin 2.40 exacta 3.00 tri 7.30
Race 6 8-7,1,3 top pick 3rd 1.70
Race 9 8-2,1,7 top pick 1st 4.00 1.70 quin 11.20 exacta 17.20 tri 65.40 (very good result for me, hope others got on)
Race 12 8-1,4,3 top pick u/p

Geelong
Race 5 4-2,3,7 top pick u/p quin 14.70 exacta 39.40
Race 8 4-8,2,3 top pick 1st 2.90 1.40 quin 24.10 exacta 18.50 tri 77.30
Race 7 2-8,6,3 top pick 1st 1.60 1.20
Race 9 2-7,1,3 top pick 1st 2.70 1.20 quin 3.20 exacta 6.30

Richmond
Race 2 4-5,6,2 top pick 2.20 1.40
Race 7 5-6,3,2 top pick 3rd 1.80 quin 14.00 exacta 47.20 tri 93.40
Race 9 1-4,2,6 top pick u/p

Quaddies
The gardens 1,2,8-7,8-1,2,4-2,4,7 lost
Geelong 2,4-field-2-4 lost
Richmond 5,7,8-6,8-5,6-1,4,8 lost

A pretty good night with 6/11 top picks. 11 units outlayed for return of 15.10 units.

So after a good look at my results I would recommend backing my top selections win only. You will make a profit most nights, and the nights you dont not much damage is done. For those taking exotics I will still provide danger selections because Ill know there iis a few of you using them. With the win only betting I recommend using a system of 2% of your bank and readjust at end of each day so bets can be placed all at once. Extremely safe and bets rise as profits do. You could even up it too 4% if you want a lil more excitement ;) I will kep you updated with results using a 1000 bank from start of this week.

monday 18-1-10 bank $1000 bets $20 outlay $220 Return $314 Profit/loss +$94
tuesday 19-1-10 bank $1094 bets $22 outlay $264 Return $288.20 Profit +$24.20
wednesday 20-1-10 bank $1118.20 bets $22 outlay $352 Return $349.80 loss -$2.20
thursday 21-1-10 bank $1116 bets $22 outlay $330 Return $627 Profit +$297
friday 22-1-10 bank $1413 bets $28 outlay $308 Return $422.80 Profit +$114.80
saturday 23-1-10 bank $1527.80 bets $30

Just shows this can build up pretty quickly, although it has been a pretty good week but not that much better then usual.

Saturday night
 

The meadows
Race 2 2-4,8,6 top pick 3rd 1.20
Race 9 3-7,6,2 top pick 1st 4.50 1.60 quin 8.80 exacta 12.50

Wentworth park
Race 2 3-2,1,7 top pick 1st 1.80 1.00 quin 3.70 exacta 6.20 tri 55.00
Race 9 8-1,2,3

Very quiet night

So no matter what in front for night hopefully last at wenty will top it off

Sundays are my refresh and day off. Chilling out with a drink and the cricket and forgetting about dogs for a day, will have mondays tips up around lunch.

Monday night
 

Albion park
Race 2 2-1,7,4 top pick 2nd 2.20 quin 4.50 exacta 9.70
Race 5 8-1,7,3 top pick 1st 2.40 1.30 quin 7.70 exacta 21.40

Cranbourne
Race 5 6-1,5,7 top pick 1st 3.20 1.10 quin 5.30 exacta 10.10
Race 8 1-4,5,7 top pick u/p
Race 9 4-6,1,8 top pick 1st 2.70 1.50 quin 10.80 exacta 9.90 trifecta 33.10

Gawler
Race 5 1-8,6,9 top pick 2nd 1.70 quin 3.70 exacta 8.30 tri 30.70
Race 8 6-7,8,1 top pick u/p

Launceston
Race 3 1-5,6,7 top pick u/p
Race 5 6-2,5,1 top pick u/p
Race 8 1-8,3,2 top pick 1st 1.90 1.60 quin 6.00 exacta 20.60 tri 17.60

Wentworth park
Race 1 1-3,2,6
Race 2 2-3,4,8
Race 6 3-1,5,8

Just the one for tonight

Lismore race 6 no. 1 miss jersey

Cheers happy aussie day

1 tip 1 win last night, got to love those days. The update for our bank is as follows-

sat 23-1-10 $1527.80 bets $30 outlay $120 return $189 profit $69
mon 25-1-10 $1596.80 bets $32 outlay $416 return $380.80 loss $35.20
tues 26-1-10 $1561.60 bets $32 outlay $32 return $80 profit $48
wed 27-1-10 $1609.60 bets $32

So starting bank $1000 and 609.60 profit in 8 betting days...so going nicely!!

Wednesday night
 

Ballarat
Race 8 5-1,8,4 top pick 1st 1.20 1.00 quin 2.90 exacta 3.50 tri 25.10
Race 9 1-6,5,4 top pick 1st 1.40 1.00
Bulli
Race 5 5-3,1,7 top pick 1st 5.60 2.00 quin 8.60 exacta 16.10 trifecta 367.70
Race 6-7-4,2,3 top pick 1st 1.90 1.00
Race 7 6-2.3.1 top pick u/p
Race 9 2-4,7,8 top pick u/p

ipswich
Race 5 8-1,6,5 top pick 1st 1.60 1.40 quin 2.50 exata 4.50 trifecta 40.70 picked in order
Race 8 1-8,3,4 top pick 1st 1.30 1.00 quin 4.40 exacta 3.90 tri 13.90

warnambool
Race 9 4-3,2,1 top pick 1st 1.10 1.00

Fantastic start to night with a $5.60 winner and $367 trifecta!! And winner and trifecta picked in order at ipswich

So 9 units outlayed tonight and after 3 races a return of 9.10 units...so any wins from last 6 will be profit, and there is at least 3 winners in there at least

So 7/9 tonight, some were short, sorry thought we might get 1.40 2 of them that paid really short, but they won main thing I guess. 9 units outlayed for 14.1 returned so good night. Running tally is-

Wed 27-1-10 bank $1609.60 bets $32 outlay $288 return $451.20 profit $163.20
Thurs 28-10-09 bank $1772.80 bets $36

So 772.80 up in 9 betting days

Thursdays tips
 

I have a funny feeling about tonight, dont know what but just a gut feeling it might be a tricky night.

Albion
Race 4 1-5,7,3 top pick 1st 1.70 1.20
Race 7 2-1,6,5 top pick 1st 1.40 1.00 quin 3.10 exacta 5.10 tri 12.20

Angle park
Race 2 4-1,2,7 top pick 1st 2.00 1.00 quin 3.60 exacta 5.30 tri 19.10
Race 3 2-1,4,7 top pick u/p quin 56.80 exacta 163.40 tri 286.40
Race 7 2-4,8,6 top pick 1st 1.90 1.00 quin 4.10 exacta 5.60

Sandown
Race 6 1-4,7,8 top pick 2nd 1.00 quin 4.70 exacta 13.30 tri 39.70
Race 7 1-4,2,5 top pick 3rd 1.40

Thurs 28-1-10 bank $1772.80 bets $36 outlay $252 return $252 profit/loss $0
Friday 29-1-10 bank $1772.80 bets $36

The gardens
Race 5 1-3,6,9 top pick 1st 3.60 2.00

Richmond
Race 10 3-1,4,5 top pick 1st 2.50 1.60 quin 14.80 exacta 16.70 tri 74.50

Thats it for today, just enjoy watching class dogs go round at the gardens

Be very very wary about backing Elite Blue Size. It has drawn horrifically in the green with Silent Guardian outside of it..... Itll be short and I can tell you right now, id prefer to be a bookie then a punter easily...

Your probably right, in that race I actually think the 3 inside dogs might be value and may be worth throwing in legs of quaddies etc. The red, all magic went really good last week, better then on paper but the 2 and 3 will come down early so will need luck, but at $17 fixed price may be worth 5 eachway