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HawkGunner 06-02-2008 11:28 PM

New Owners
 
Hi guys,

im new to this forum, my mates and i are in Victoria and would love to get involved in Greyhound racing. We would like to buy a pup, and hopefully get it to the track to race.

im looking for any tips you may have about getting started, rearing, breaking in and a good honest trainer in Vic. We would also like advice as to whether its any benefit to by a dog or a bitch, if there is any advantage with one or the other.

any advice would be great

Morgan 06-02-2008 11:32 PM

Hey welcome to the forum.

Your in the right place for help, there are many trainers on here who should be able to point you in the right direction.

Depending how much $$ you have buying a well breed bitch is probably the best way to go as you always have the breeding capabilities after her racing career has finished.

bundy 06-05-2008 02:37 AM

Anything I can do to help dont hesitate to contact me via my site @ team-bundy.com or email me brad@team-bundy.com

Morgan 06-05-2008 11:25 AM

Brad is a great bloke and will certainly help you out.

Adrian 06-05-2008 04:03 PM

Yep, Brad got me into it, and everyone on TBS and Racing Forum are a great bunch and will help you out with anything you need to know

HawkGunner 06-06-2008 12:21 AM

thanks for the help guys, we are really gonna do our home work over the next few weeks and will no doubt ask more questions.

again thanks heaps

Morgan 06-06-2008 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawkGunner (Post 4262)
thanks for the help guys, we are really gonna do our home work over the next few weeks and will no doubt ask more questions.

again thanks heaps

No worries hope the members here were able to answer your questions :)

neverpromise 06-06-2008 05:00 PM

Welcome to the forum hawkgunner. Have you thought about buying something that is already racing ? As the risk involved buying a pup it may not have the ability to race. And as you are located in Victoria. I would think you would want to watch it race LIVE on track. Racing is a level up in this state. The National Greyhound Form (paper) comes out Wednesday's is a good place to start. Will give you an idea on what available at what price. Greyhound-data website has alot of greyhounds for sale, always found most overpriced on that website though.

One Tip - If your getting a greyhound already racing, check out the GRV site. On it's form and stewards reports.

Morgan 06-06-2008 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neverpromise (Post 4284)
Welcome to the forum hawkgunner. Have you thought about buying something that is already racing ? As the risk involved buying a pup it may not have the ability to race. And as you are located in Victoria. I would think you would want to watch it race LIVE on track. Racing is a level up in this state. The National Greyhound Form (paper) comes out Wednesday's is a good place to start. Will give you an idea on what available at what price. Greyhound-data website has alot of greyhounds for sale, always found most overpriced on that website though.

One Tip - If your getting a greyhound already racing, check out the GRV site. On it's form and stewards reports.

Great info.

You can also check Just Greyhounds - Australian Greyhound Stud Dogs / Sires & More they have dogs/bitch's for sale also although you would need to research what you are buying first make sure it is going to win you some races or its not going to be a fun experience if you lose every race.

TheChook 06-07-2008 03:40 PM

NGF a bit low on the racers at the moment. Only 2 were in the paper this week and one was unraced.

Hard to find a good quality racer nowadays as i was always told people dont sell champs, you gotta breed em yourself!!

So if you dont find a racer that suits what your after then have a good squizzy at the pups sections - especially on Data.

Can find yourself some nice priced well bred pups. If you give them the best of everything then there is no reason they wont go well unless they simply dont have the motor. But if you have a good look into the lines should be able to pick which ones will throw on.

Good Luck as you and your mates venture into dog racing - Has ups, and plenty of downs.

neverpromise 06-07-2008 10:28 PM

This was one of the racing greyhounds in the NGF this week -
READY TO RACE
Gorgeous Speed
(elgrando x my shot)
*Gobis
*fawn bitch feb'06 28kgs
*14 - 3 - 1 - 1
*Won W'Bool 25.74 ( 6.47 - 12.39)
*Won W'bool 19.35 (6.68)
*Won Bendigo 24.70 (12.86)
*price $3,500

I havn't checked the latest form on this bitch so can't really comment. I'm not really up on the Warnambool times. The Bendigo time is ok. Overall IMO a few lengths off a good dog. Plus is the age Feb'06 whelping, minus is wins to starts & price, due to most trainers are on, 50/50 prizemoney split. So this greyhound would have to make $7K to beak even. Make a good NSW short course sprinter.

bundy 06-07-2008 10:45 PM

Warrnambool:
Its time is 25.74 over 450m
Average win times are : 25.85 (M), 25.63 (G5), 25.49 (G4)

Its time is 19.35 over 332m
Average win times are : 19.53 (M), 19.36 (G5), 19.25 (G4)


Bendigo:
Its time is 24.70 over 430m
Average win times are : 24.61 (M), 24.48 (G5), 24.37 (G4)

My Thoughts:
Cant run anything past 400m, would struggle to win a G5 at Bendigo and Warny over 450 but could be okay around 300m racing in lower grade races but also suggest 2 options of Traralgon and Cranbourne would be out as competition too hot. Might win a short course at say Horsham or Healesville.

Not one Id consider IMHO.

TheChook 06-10-2008 12:02 AM

Hawk,

Have sent you a PM.

Hope i can help you out with your search :)

Jaime

neverpromise 06-10-2008 12:28 AM

I think times would vary more than 5 lengths from maiden to 4th grade racing. Wasn't hinting on buying that one. just posting what's available at what price. Hawk greyhounds are like buses there's another one around the corner. It's important to do some homework and not rush into the 1st one that comes along.

bundy 06-10-2008 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neverpromise (Post 4419)
Hawk greyhounds are like buses there's another one around the corner. It's important to do some homework and not rush into the 1st one that comes along.

Great advice NP :)

HawkGunner 06-15-2008 04:41 PM

hey guys thanks heaps for all the pm's and info your giving on here, its fantastic.

neverpromise 06-15-2008 08:52 PM

Have you found a greyhound yet Hawk ?
Decided if your getting a ready made race dog or a pup ?

God Father 06-16-2008 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawkGunner (Post 4112)
Hi guys,

im new to this forum, my mates and i are in Victoria and would love to get involved in Greyhound racing. We would like to buy a pup, and hopefully get it to the track to race.

im looking for any tips you may have about getting started, rearing, breaking in and a good honest trainer in Vic. We would also like advice as to whether its any benefit to by a dog or a bitch, if there is any advantage with one or the other.

any advice would be great

only to happy to help with some advice later in the week
OR
my email should be up and running in about 2 days thanks to problems from telstraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa:mad::mad::mad:

Apollo 06-16-2008 10:24 PM

do your homework, dont get sucked in as YES maybe there are some nice people in the sport though there are alot of sharks out there also.

God Father 06-17-2008 08:32 PM

Theres a ok BUY in the publication of the woofer on greyhounds wa sight.
Smooth Louie who actually goes around tonight at Mandurah WAand would be a ok purchase Hawk Gunner.
Im sure you would be able to barter $ some what.

luke_09 08-20-2008 10:23 PM

ive just got my first greyhound home after i bought it 6 months ago and i reccomend getting a pup just to go through everything with the dog that it has gone through such as rearing, breaking etc is an amazing feeling and its making me more excited about its first start so hopefully you have an amazing journey like i have had so far and good luck.


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