Thanks guys. all seems good in what you are both saying. All these questions that i'm asking is getting ready for when she comes on season. She has never been on season before and now she is nearly two year old, she must be getting close.
Crickey, you guys are scaring me with all the dollars in breeding pups.
That breeding deal your talking about Nick. How does that work?

Gippy, be quiet will ya. your crampin me style mate. I've nearly got her.

Don't listen to Gippy my cream bun, he's only jealous.

coops

breeding deals can be played out anyway you like or most so can get someone to agree to.. most common is you get 1 pup from the litter, one I like doing may not work as you need a handy bitch! you pay sire and if frozen the relievant bills and the other person pays whelping you then split the litter 50/50 but you would need a handy bitch who has won a few races to find someone to agree to that

if you do make a breeding deal, do your homework on the other person make sure they have whelped litters and have the set up and most of all write up a contract for both parties to sign

I've got one 2 n half who has never been on season, which is a good thing whilst racing but once she finishes I'll be going to musle man to bring her on via back manipulation, it's a specialist area and not many people can do it but it might pay to find a good mm that has a proven record of doing it with success, wouldn't let Joe blow do it

you could be waiting another 2 years for her to come on, by then youdhave saved enough for a brettlee straw haha

Coops, not inconsistent with what Nick has said above, my honest opinion is that you are NOT going to find someone who will enter into a breeding deal with this bitch. There are so many bitches around, bitches with, in my opinion, better breeding and obviously much better performed. I think you would be best forgetting this as even being an option and focus your attention on the viability of breeding with her yourself, if this is what you want to do. On second thought, one possibility of finding a suitable breeding deal is if you get Shazza to do the negotiating. Shazza must have wonderful selling skills.
Coops with regard to your courting of Lily and the related "sweet talk" which often takes the form of delicious items found in cake shops, can I suggest that you do not refer to her as a "tart", I don't think she is that kind of lady. In contrast my wife is a "tart" but I like her being that way.

Ah that's funny stuff!!!!!!!!!!!

haha yup are you suggesting shazza is telling a few white lies in regards to selling 5 overpriced pups in under 24hours??

no weasel out of this one mate, I no you love bein backed into a corner haha

Nick, I'm worried about being "backed into a corner and loving it" but if it just refers to being put into a position where I am forced to say something or take some action, or otherwise "perish", then my usual reaction is to "find someone else to blame". Would you mind if I blamed you on this occasion, "Nick made me do it". However, if that is not an option, yes, I think there is at the least, a special circumstance relating to the sale of those 5 pups e.g. they have been sold to family members and/or have exchanged hands for a sum of much less than $3000 per pup. Now I really don't want to be pedantic, no hold on, maybe I do want to be pendantic in commenting that a "white lie", I think, is when one misrepresents the truth for the good of another or others. It is a good lie, one with good intent or at least is said for the purpose of diplomacy. In this case, if the truth has been misrepresented, it is not for the good of others and I don't think diplomacy comes into it. Maybe my self determined definition of "white lie" is not correct, I have been known to be wrong.

I think it would be easier to buy a pup.

Come to think of it, my precious puddin & pie has some 8 week old pups for sale for a grand.

Are you there Snuggle pot?

coops

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that 12k you'd be spending on the pups, you could buy 2 well breed pups and have change to buy Lilly a nice present and if all goes well still have change for a hotel lol