My Dogs
 

im new to this site not sure if many care about the irish side
but i run broadmill kennels
we have had a few good ones down the years with broadmill one winning the kingdom derby
broadmill billy winning the studmasters
broadmill lady setting the track record in tralee
castledale lad winning three features and setting three track records
missy elliot feature and a track record

Seems like you have some very smart dogs in your kennel.

What is the prize money like in Ireland?

How does the quality of dogs compare to those of Australia?

prize money for one off races between 280 to 500 euro for 525
and 180 to 220 for sprints
sweeps vary from 1000 euro up the derby is 175,000 to the winner

That prize money is pretty good beats the winnings of our races if you converted the euro to AUD.

Hi Morgan just noticed your message to Noel Keane (Ireland). Unfortunately I did not go to Ireland (would love to howeve, heard great reports) but I spent 3 1/2 months in the UK early this year. My observation was that our Australian city prizemoney was much better than the UK prizemoney and I suspect better than Ireland. Am I wrong or does 500 Euro convert to roughly $A1000. Wentworth Park and even more so, Melbourne city prizemoney is much better than this. Many thanks for keeping things moving on this site.

Yep your right Yuthapinaboy
500.00 EUR = 972.758 AUD

The Derby sounds like VERY nice mooolah!

Hi Chook. The Derby prizemoney is good, very good but I believe from reading the other contributions on this matter that it is a sweepstake race. I am not sure how much is put in by the participants. It is the normal week to week racing on their major tracks where I believe the prizemoney is not good relative to our major tracks. I very much took note on my many visits to the Ladbrokes betting shop on Chiswick High Street, London, of the prizemoney. It was not good, it was poor. My main interest was to see what greyhounds by Australian sires were racing. Overall they did very well. Top Honcho has been an amazing success over there for a long time. I had minimal interest at the time he was racing in Australia but I have been told that he was nothing special. I did look up his form once on GRV site. I seem to recall he had a win at Angle Park in fast time. Hey, is Kamikaze Spirit who I saw race at Dapto last night one of the dogs about which you have written. If so, I thought he was going to win last night but there seemed to be an awful lot going on between the 3 or so dogs in front. He finished up very wide. Not sure what the winner Jayden's Rocket was doing but he did kick at the finish to win again. I have to admit to not being a great analyst of a race especially when I see it only the once, that is, without the benefit of replays. Good luck with all of your dogs.

Yep Kamikaze Spirit is one of mine. Unfortunately when Jayden clipped him down the back we feel this is where his injury from the race has occurred. Poor man hurt his hamstring we think, bit swollen off to vet tomorrow.
Kamis wide running doesnt help him in the home straight but i feel that may come from a broken wrist at 6 weeks old. 1L cost him getting in the $50,000 to winner final, but if he s injured, probably for the best (could get heartbreaking scratching from a biggen)

Noel hows the broadmill champs travelling along?
Hope theres some nice results coming through.

Its interesting learnign about some of the irish racing.

sorry for not been on for a bit but as a chef xmas is crazy
the derby is a sweep stake run over a few weeks the entery is 300 euro to it it does not go towards the prize money of 175,000
the broadmill champs are doing ok now my best dog three is returning soon from a serious writ injury was in the quarter final of a sweep 20k to the winner 7 lenghts clear when he went down got up and first first on three legs
his brother has won two second once and 5 in the last four
and there sister will return to racing in the coming weeks from her first litter to dks prime time(usa sire)

Noel, sounds like you still in the xmas spirit.lol.

Hey, when you gonna bring your dogs to Australia and race against our magnificiant second to none dogs? lol. We would like to bring our dogs over there, but it's too far and they would probably get car sick.

coops

it wouldnt be fair id take all yer money lol lol and my dogs dont like the heat lol lol

Hey Coops, with regard to your reference to it being too far for us to travel to Ireland, I thought I would make sure you realise that it is (the last time I checked) just as far from there to here or does the rotation of the earth come into play. Just kidding.

NOEL,
Our dogs over here are so fast that they cool themselves down with the wind they create going so fast. They aslo go that fast they sometimes pass themselves. We have changed our tracks from grass to sand, as the dogs keep setting the grass alight with so much friction they create when running. LOL.

So come on down and show us what you got. LOL.

What do you reckon YUTHAPINABOY, true or not.

coops

You forgot to mention that the TAB has to replay the races in slow motion so we can see the race.

well the problem here is the law as my dogs go so fast i had to get the muzzels made from the stuff on space shulltes because of the heat build up they were melting away so i dont really want one of my dogs passing yours at the first bend as they lap them the heat residue from them might kill your dogs
the last night one came out of the box so quick there was a sonic boom lol lol lol

Nice comeback NOEL.lol

coops

:p:p:p

Hey NOEL, do you wash your dogs before a race?

I just washed mine this morning and he looks goood. He might be slow, but he looks nice. lol. I washed him in sented shampoo and he smells like a flower.

Also, do you sit in the kennel at night and tell your dogs bed time stories, tuck them in and kiss them goodnight, like I do?

I told him a story about this Irish greyhound once, and he has had nightmares ever since. lol.

coops

yes i wash them but never race day as they loose lenghts because of it wash the middle of the day before and they sleep like babies that night bright and fresh the next day
be very carefull what shampoo you use as mosr irrate the dogs skin which you may not see

is it a greyhound or a pum you have lol lol lol

and dont scare you pups with tales of the big bad fast irsh hounds who run like the wind and breath fire lol lol lol

Noel, Coops is right, our dogs are very fast and elusive, so much so that I have never been able to get my hands on one of those really fast ones. In trying to think of an Australian icon to apply to this "argument" I did think of Boomerang but unfortunately it conjured up visions of one going part way around and then coming back - I am sure you also have a few of them. Not a very nice thought. Boomerang would certainly be an off-putting name to give to a dog, that is, to the punters and others including other owners/trainers. Or it could mean a dog that keeps coming back to you from trainer after trainer, maybe because it is slow, dirty or is a shocking kennel dog (barks and whinges all day and night).

Apart from hydrobathing (for soreness reasons) the day before maybe, I never thought of washing a dog on raceday. This may be where I went wrong for all of those years. I do remember someone (4 or so decades ago) hydrobathing their dog (was to become an outstanding dog) several times on raceday as part of a process to get it beaten that night. They had another one in it (not in their name) that they backed. Yes, the "deaden" did after having its muzzle squashed into its mouth when being put into the boxes, clearly miss the start but it still managed to circle the field and win by 6 lengths. The other one, they backed, was unplaced. I didn't know about this before the race and backed the winner that blew from 7/4 to 5/1. I found out immediately afterwards when I was momentarily happy (for them) but they were not.

Yuthapinaboy mate,

I have been following greyhounds since 1966 and have seen many things and heard many things especially back in the early days.
I thought that having a greyhound back then was cool (as they say in todays world) But knowing what trainers were doing to their dogs to either win or lose sorta put me off.

Times have changed and the sport has gone to the TAB under the control of the government, and things have got somewhat better. Thats why I now have my first dog knowing that I sorta have an equal chance and I like it that way and are very happy.

coops

Coops, what you have said sounds fair enough to me. Always being essentially an enthusiast, this sort of activity is not something in which I have ever participated: have never "fire along" a dog or "pulled up" one. However, I have been the victim of having a dog 'knocked off" in the raceday kennels (staggered around tailed off) and also having the hare driver try to beat a dog by suddenly slowing the hare down on a sharp turn (she almost fell losing significant ground but still won). It is the stuff in the immediately preceeding sentence that, to say the least, really @&##%d me off. Fortunately today, with more frequent swabbing, improved kennel security and in the case of hare driving, filming of all races, this sort of activity, I expect, is virtually non-existent. From your perspective, Coops, you are participating in the right era so I say, "good on you, enjoy every minute of it".

in this day and age there is no such thing as "running dead" the feed and travel bills are to expensive and its very hard to get a decent bet on with the lack of bookmakers and the one's who still attend meeting arnt obliging to a decent bet. here in vic its hard enough to get a run,you hear storys about well perfomed dogs going to quallies just to built there form up. Another example is geelong monday half money races, you have grade 5 dogs running 25.60s for $300 because they cant get a run any where else.

I wasnt around in the good old days but storys ive been told blow my mind....something's do not change tho,"running dead" is finished but running "topped up" is still well alive.

Nick, I honestly can't comment one way or the other about the "topped up" thing these days but you are spot on about the other stuff. No bookmakers and betting on the TAB make it not viable to be messing around with regard to "deadens". It was only a matter of 5 or so months ago that this old bloke (older than me) was trying to tell me at the Ryde-Eastwood Leagues Club that he had, quote "been watching Mantra Lad in his recent starts (on Sky Channel 1000 kms away) and that the trainer had definitely been messing with him". This was the night when he murdered the opposition in the Vic Final of the National Stayers Championship in a track record equalling performance. As an enthusiast I was excited to see him perform so well, I like Mantra Lad, good dog. There was no way you could even reason with this idiot as to why the connections would mess around with such a wonderful dog and in races that carried first prize money such as $25,000 and where would you get enough money on anonymously in future races, to make it worthwhile or get the appropriate "sling" from bookmakers. It made no financial sense in the short or the long-term and I was aware that the trainer had been having cramping problems with the dog. You just can't reason with people like this, they don't know what they are talking about.

Yes nickg you are right in saying "topped up" is still alive, but not to the extent of what it was back in the old days. It's like eveything else, the authorities will catch up with the unswabable stuff soon. In the meantime me and me dog are good mates and having heaps of fun trying to beat our rivals in a truley great sport.

coops