coach

What a dribbler you are, still banging on about your conspiracy theories about 1st time posters, Bickerty has told u who he is so go and peddle your crazy theories on a ufo forum.

I dont think I will be taking your tips , If I want to throw money away I will back Sirrah Nashira next start.

Some people just bad mouth , it may be human nature for some, ............

........A little quote from Bart Cummings "The cheapest thing in racing is patience" ............

.......oh but when Bart said that there was not the internet as today where any nuffer can post any cheap shot they wish ............

...I'll just go with Bart's advise.......... OH and you lot REALLY need to get out more.........

............Heres a theory>: theres a horse called "FINE COTTON" you might want to get some money on that, they plan a "ring in" ........... thats it over end of post on this thread.

coach,
writing grabage at 10.30 at night with a bottle in your hand, i know who needs to get a life you pathetic little thing.
as for patience you obviosly have plenty if one winner at quirindi in the past 12 months from a stable of 14 does it for you.

HA,HA,HA,
dont feed the horse today just keep feeding the chickens!!!!!!!!!!!

Alan Nightingale here..... Hotrodhorses, I hope you have the proof as we are investigating our legal position on such rubbish, both with the site owner and you the poster of this nonsence. and get spell check you imbercile.

Nightingale Syndications
 

Good afternoon all
Alan Nightingale here. Just to enlighten you all on a few facts about us. We are a fairly new syndication company and have over 170 owners in our horse's so far, we have lead in 13 winners from Tamworth to Canterbury. Now to set the record straight, not all horse's make the track, but all our 3yo+ have raced or trialed in the last 6 months, all of our 2yo' are broken in and most have had a prep.
I thought that if you had a horse that I have in my care that you would ring if you had a concern about it, we have open days every month, a website that has video of each horse, email and even a phone for any of you to ring on. It is easy to hide behind these sort of low rating sites and that is why I use my real name on these sights and on my business. The bloke in Viscount should grow some of his own and ring me if he has a prob.

Alan - Good to see a reply too some of the crap that has come onto this thread of late. All owners have the right to ask questions but i would have thought it made more sense to ask Nightingale thoroughbreds the questions not come on a site and just bag someone out. see you at the open day tomorrow

Thanks Numbat, it will be like talking website code with you tomorrow, Let me know who you are when you arive. Anyone else wishing to come and view our operation please feel free to attend. Sasha Sormaz will also be here to talk to you and answer any sensible questions that you may need the answer to.
Might be a bit far for Nickg in Melb, (we know who you are)

Hi Andy
Alan Nightingale here old mate, Maybe if you pay for all your share you will get all the information???? 5% OWING ON THE VISCOUNT GELDING $2250 BY END OF MONTH OR CIVIL ACTION.......

I'm a little unclear about that statment??? ie we know who you are??

not sure how to take that but yeah I won't be there

I wont be posting anymore, I have given this cheep shot web site enough of my time. I have horse's to attened and clients to take care of. Thank you all, good luck in racing.

like i said , to hot in the kitchen and what a way to talk to clients

you want to tell me why you mentioned my name?

that's what I'm interested about!

I don't understand your statement!

I am sorry. Did you spell nonsense, as nonsence? Then tell someone 2 words later to get spell check. To me that is irony at it's best.

any more comments

I have been a loyal supporter of alan nightingale and his private training track and private trainer idea. I still think it is a very good idea.

Most of racehorses are out of race winning mares which have thrown race winners & or city winners.

Since the move from main stream horse trainers in the Newcastle area to the full private operation there has been a noticable lack of winners from the stable.

One can say heavy rain and washed out tracks are the cause but all other stables in the area have the same weather conditions to condend with.

The part owners in the horses have got to be wanting winners but the wins are not being currently notched up at the track, so how much longer can the operation maintain the current form as it costs just as much to feed a slow horse as it does a winner.

i also had a share in sirrah and pulled out a few months back due to the fact i asked by email on several occasions about why the change of trainer , who this sasha person is and the horse isnt put over distances its breed for never mind its all behind now and have a very nice hancoxs horse who won on her 1st start
happy racing all

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Enough said.

Word is Nightingale has been de-registered.

Well I am a first time poster and I have read these posts with interest - let me state clearly my beef with Nightingale without the personal attacks:
Nightingale advertised horses for sale May 2010 to be trained by top name trainers like Lees , Perry , Howlett , Deamer and Steve Hodge . These are all metro winning trainers . Within days of signing up Alan had imposed Sasha Sormaz as his private trainer - as part of a better value approach for syndicate members - Sasha Sormaz is charging $55 per day to train - Steve Hodge is $45 Robert Davies at Cessnock is $45 to name just 2 trainers with lower fees - no benefit there !! Alan Nightingale is agisting the horses at $27.50 per day - way above the Hunter Valley average that ranges from $12 to $25 per day - no savings there - 12 months since this thread FIRST stated the only placegetters Nightingale have had have been horses not trained by Sasha Sormaz - virtually none of the 2 year olds have run - in fact it seems the whole operation has slowly ground to a halt - Alan has updated the web site once in 4 months with just 3 lines - for all of those who have defended alan Nightingale you need to reappraise your loyalty - no where in the PDS it it mention Sasha Sormaz nowhere in the Financial statement did it mention Alan would be the beneficiery of most of the revenue by not tendering the agistment and training out in the best interests of those who's money he holds in trust.

Nightingale
 

Yes RNSW stopped him syndicating horses in December 2010 ,
It's sad for all of those who have parted with their hard-earned in fees with little to show for it .

guys i pulled out mid last year after working out there was no chance of enjoying racing in this scenario as it is just money down the drain. i cant believe RNSW took so long to act on this guy, if this is correct, when you look at the damage being done to the racing industry in particular to its owners who are the backbone of the industry. the shame of it is there is a number of horses with good breeding that will never get to show what they could have been.

this guy was never serious about racing he was all about fleecing owners. Cant believe racing authorities let him operate.

nightingale
 

Yes, I had share in two horses, one still to race (or should I say spelling) 4yo and one had 2 starts finishing at the tail end both times. No show and lost faith and money with the first one. Think twice or more before committing again.

awhile ago he had 3 in a trial not sure where it was they filled the last 3 spots best of the 3 was beaten 17lens, the last one beaten over 30lens, this is a trial where talking about. the report on the 3 of them was "where happy with the trial"

i had a share in sirrah nashira with a few mates, we got no emails no nothing, when the owner finally got through after quiet a few calls he copped a spray telling us we hadnt paid for the last 4 months and we would get no info, it took alan 20mins to work out he had us mixed up " turns out with someone with the same name as the manager of our group" haha yeah rite....we got emails for a couple of months then one of the boys went overseas for a 3 months, in the 2 weeks prior to this he emailed and tried calling alan never got a return never got an email back. his final email to alan pretty much said im going away for a few months ill fix up whats owned when i get back, on return he had an email saying we where kicked out of the horse for non payment, no mention of the missed calls or emails he never replied to

i watched sirrah as her first trial back when the first trainer had her (forget his name) she went super, she came from way back and hit the line very well, first up thompson was on board and she went shin sore and he didnt thrash her. she comes back next prep thinking we should have some fun boy where we wrong she hardly beat a horse home in her next 10 starts, she put in one run where she flew late to run 4th. ok we where told she was a pig of a horse but ahhh when another guy i no suggested she should be moved to maybe a mackay or rockhampton he was told nope its not the owners call she is staying here

bitten once and i doubt ill go back into it again unless its with one who has a good record, not so much with horse but dealling with people

Where's the Coach now? wiping egg from his face?

the coach came around dont worry about that, he indeed lost faith

Why would I have egg on my face? I wrote what I thought was correct at the time, read my post (#55) where I said that owners would not wait much longer for winners as none had come from the stable since Sascha had been appointed.

Just for the record I requested that Sirrah be moved to another trainer and be relocated interstate to weaker fields ( weaker than non tab country NSW ) as it was clear she was not going to win when and where she was racing so when this did not happen I sacked the whole operation in January 2011 and moved on.

I still think the theory was a good one but it did not work in practice.

enough egg for an omlette coach

What part of me asking Nightingale to swap trainers and relocate the horse did you not understand ? :rolleyes:

What part of owners not wanting to wait forever for winners did you not understand ? :rolleyes:

P'd off if your that slow I'll d o u b l e s p a c e everything you can keep up. :)

Coach, you said you quit the whole operation. Was that acknowledged by Nightingales or did/are you still receiving invoices? Regards

FYI,
Countach is now in the very good(and experienced) hands of Lawrie Mayfield-Smith at Eagle Farm. He has had 3 starts, 1 at the Farm and 2 at the Gold Coast, all competetive and the most recent a 2.0L 4th. LMS sees as him as a city class miler.He should run next Wednesday at eagle Farm over 1600m and will be very strong winning chance.All the original owners have stayed in the horse, bar Nightingale, and we are having a great time racing our boy. There is weekly updates from the stable and owners can attend trackwork whenever they choose to.

do we not what happend to the rest of the horses?

Good Luck to you and others in the syndicate! It has taken a long time to get to this point (since original syndication) and your persistance will pay off. Its good to hear of something positive to come out of this fiasco. Hope the other horses get a chance like Countach and Stratana (who is doing very well - a city class horse), like Swimmininit, Perfect Image and Let's Intice for starters.

Stratana is under Paul Perry 4 starts 2 wins and 2nd for $29,850 in prize money.

Countach 7th sept Eagle Farm 1600 maiden.

Countach, barrier 16 (at the moment), not the best barrier, hope it improves.

Yes, does anyone know?

Countach(barrier 10, not 16-that was his ballot position) had his saddle slip after 200m and was eased up. Uninjured, just a shit situation you hope never happens to you. He'll go round again as soon as we find a suitable distance.

The Nightingale and Sormaz private training partnership with syndicated horses notched up something like 35 races for not one placing :rolleyes:

Stratana under Paul Perry wins 3 of 5 and now Nightingale is crowing about the success, pity the other horses Nightingale syndicated and promised shareholders they would go to Paul Perry never got to his stables.

nightingale
 

Here here! My sentiments exactly!

does anyone no whats happening to the rest of the horses that nightingale own.Cant get any response from them so hopefully i can here.i own a share i one of them.